The AND Podcast
The AND Podcast brings together leaders, makers, and thinkers who live beyond the limits of either/or.
These are the real, unfiltered conversations about identity, leadership, creativity, and life. Where contradictions aren’t something to fix, but something to embrace.
Here, we unpack what it means to lead with courage, live with depth, and thrive in the tension of AND.
Latest Episodes
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Latest Episodes 〰️
Episode 1|The ending and Beginning
In this first, April shatters the myth that we have to fit into one identity, one lane, or one version of ourselves. She shares the raw, honest story behind the AND movement and the seasons of her life that made “AND not OR” not just a phrase, but a way of surviving, growing, and leading.
Episode 2|Meet our co-host
Some people come into your life and instantly feel like home - Ivy Ford is one of those people.
In this episode, April sits down with Ivy, a force of energy, empathy, and intention. They talk about the experiences that shaped her, the lessons she’s learned along the way, and how she continues to choose both courage and compassion in her work and life.
Episode 3|People AND profit-steve harden
In this episode of The AND Podcast, we are joined by Steve Harden. A leader whose career spans some of the world’s most iconic brands, including Adidas and Oakley.
We talk about what it really means to lead with intention: showing up for people, making decisions rooted in values, and understanding that true impact goes far beyond titles or results.
Episode 4|People AND profit - Priscilla sauceda
In this episode, Priscilla shares the journey that led her and her husband to build Sauceda Industries and the lessons that shaped the culture at its core. From learning what not to do, to intentionally designing a people-first business, Priscilla walks us through how investing in humans creates impact far beyond the walls of a company
Episode 5|People AND profit - erin Cooper
In this episode of the AND Podcast, April and Ivy sit down with Erin Cooper to talk about one of the hardest and least discussed stages of leadership: middle management.
When you’re leading people, driving results, and operating inside systems you didn’t design, clarity isn’t always guaranteed. Erin shares what it really looks like to thrive in that space while holding the tension between people and profit, navigating doubt, and continuing to move forward even when things feel shaky.
Episode 6|People AND profit - Resource Round Up
In this final People AND Profit resource round-up episode, April reflects on the messy firsts, the pride of finishing something new, and the powerful leadership patterns that emerged across the series. She distills the biggest themes from her conversations with incredible guests, shares her own hard-earned takeaways from building people-centric organizations, and offers tangible tools leaders can start using today.
Episode 7|scared and brave - caroline boudreaux
Sometimes courage doesn’t show up as a big, bold leap. Sometimes it looks like one small step forward…taken again and again. In this episode, April and Ivy sit down with Caroline to explore the moment that changed everything. A moment rooted in fear, heartbreak, and uncertainty with the simple promise that followed: to do one small thing each day.
That promise went on to spark extraordinary impact for thousands of children and families at The Miracle Foundation, proving that meaningful change doesn’t require having all the answers, just the willingness to move anyway.
Episode 8|scared and brave - Robin Lerner
April and Ivy sit down with Robin Lerner, someone who has spent her life stepping into some of the world’s hardest places, choosing presence, compassion, and responsibility even when fear is present. Together, they explore what it looks like to hold grief and hope, anger and love, the weight of reality and the possibility of change. This is a conversation about courage that isn’t loud, humanity that doesn’t look away, and the quiet power of choosing to move closer when things feel broken or unjust.
Episode 9|scared and brave - Whitney rowell
In this episode, April sits down with Whitney Rowell, founder of Miracle Mama, to talk about building a business rooted in motherhood, community, and purpose. From launching lactation cookies out of her kitchen to scaling production and raising capital, Whitney shares the honest journey of growing a company and a community while raising a family.
Episode 10|scared and brave - Amy Kiska and molly morse
In this episode, Amy and Molly share the behind-the-scenes story of founding Recess- the “why not?” moments, late-night conversations, and the bold decision to leap into entrepreneurship.From dreaming about becoming founders as young girls to identifying a real market need for families craving better childcare and enrichment options, they walk through the early collaborations, the setbacks, and the trust that became the foundation of their partnership.
Episode 11|scared and brave - Jodi scott
In this episode, April sits down with longtime friend and entrepreneur Jodi Scott to share the story behind The Winfield Inn and how that lead to her current business Spry Life. From discovering an unexpected property to building it into a beloved wedding and event venue rooted in love and community. Jodi opens up about taking brave leaps, navigating business challenges, and allowing support during life’s hardest seasons.
Episode 12|scared and brave - Resource Round Up
In this round-up episode of Scared AND Brave series, April reflects on the women who defined this season - Caroline Boudreaux, Robin Lerner, Whitney Rowell, Molly Morse, Amy Kiska and Jodi Scott - and distills the patterns woven through their stories. This episode is a reminder that if something in your life feels heavy, uncertain, or bigger than comfort, this episode is an invitation to step closer. You don’t need to be fearless. You just need to move.
Episode 13|Wellness and performance - brie kluytenaar // Part 1
In this two-part kickoff to our Wellness + Performance series, April and Ivy sit down with attorney and Practicing Wellness founder Brie Kluytenaar. After six years in BigLaw and 15 years helping companies design better work as an employment attorney, Brie reached a turning point that led her to reimagine how workplace culture shapes not only results, but health, identity, and sustainability. This conversation explores what it looks like to choose Performance AND Wellbeing and how leaders can embed sustainable wellness into the foundation of their organizations, not just as a perk, but as a practice.
Episode 14|Wellness and performance - brie kluytenaar // Part 2
In Part 2 of our conversation with Brie Kluytenaar, we move from her story into the practice of wellness itself. Brie shares practical ways to design your day, build small daily habits that support well-being, and rethink how workplaces can support the humans inside them. Because sustainable success isn’t built on burnout, it’s built through intention, community, and practicing wellness daily, not perfectly.
Episode 15|Wellness and performance - Melissa busby
In this episode, Melissa Busby shares her journey through wellness, shadow work, and authentic living - unpacking how true transformation happens when we stop avoiding the hard parts and start leaning into them. From reprogramming limiting beliefs to understanding the power of mindset, Melissa explores how our inner world shapes everything.
Episode 16|Wellness and performance - Meg gold and parnian emami
In this episode, we go inside Bonde with founders Meg Gold and Parnian Emami. A space built on intention, connection, and aligned ambition. Discover how wellness AND performance can coexist, and what becomes possible when community is the catalyst for change.
Episode 17|Wellness and performance - Alex Schulze
In this episode of the Wellness AND Performance series, April and Ivy sit down with Alex, Co-Founder of 4Ocean, to explore the connection between discipline, mindset, and sustainable performance. From pushing physical limits to redefining mental resilience, Alex shares how consistency, self-awareness, and intentional habits are the foundation for both personal growth and long-term success.
Episode 18|Wellness and performance - Vaishali jadhav
In this final episode of the Wellness AND Performance series, April sits down with Vaishali Jadhav, Founder of Mandalight Learning, to explore how great leadership drives both performance and well-being. From Gallup to Whole Foods Market, Vaishali shares how small shifts, like creating space, managing energy, and empowering teams, can unlock better thinking, stronger cultures, and more sustainable success.
Episode 19|Wellness and performance - resource round up
In this Wellness AND Performance resource round-up, April reflects on the biggest lessons from the series where ambition meets alignment, and performance becomes sustainable. From redefining success and shifting environments, to building habits, community, and leadership practices that actually support well-being, this episode brings the patterns together. Because when wellness is integrated, not added on, everything changes.