The AND Podcast
The AND Podcast brings together leaders, makers, and thinkers who live beyond the limits of either/or.
These are the real, unfiltered conversations about identity, leadership, creativity, and life. Where contradictions aren’t something to fix, but something to embrace.
Here, we unpack what it means to lead with courage, live with depth, and thrive in the tension of AND.
Latest Episodes
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Latest Episodes 〰️
Episode 1|The ending and Beginning
In this first, April shatters the myth that we have to fit into one identity, one lane, or one version of ourselves. She shares the raw, honest story behind the AND movement and the seasons of her life that made “AND not OR” not just a phrase, but a way of surviving, growing, and leading.
Episode 2|Meet our co-host
Some people come into your life and instantly feel like home - Ivy Ford is one of those people.
In this episode, April sits down with Ivy, a force of energy, empathy, and intention. They talk about the experiences that shaped her, the lessons she’s learned along the way, and how she continues to choose both courage and compassion in her work and life.
Episode 3|People AND profit-steve harden
In this episode of The AND Podcast, we are joined by Steve Harden. A leader whose career spans some of the world’s most iconic brands, including Adidas and Oakley.
We talk about what it really means to lead with intention: showing up for people, making decisions rooted in values, and understanding that true impact goes far beyond titles or results.
Episode 4|People AND profit - Priscilla sauceda
In this episode, Priscilla shares the journey that led her and her husband to build Sauceda Industries and the lessons that shaped the culture at its core. From learning what not to do, to intentionally designing a people-first business, Priscilla walks us through how investing in humans creates impact far beyond the walls of a company
Episode 5|People AND profit - erin Cooper
In this episode of the AND Podcast, April and Ivy sit down with Erin Cooper to talk about one of the hardest and least discussed stages of leadership: middle management.
When you’re leading people, driving results, and operating inside systems you didn’t design, clarity isn’t always guaranteed. Erin shares what it really looks like to thrive in that space while holding the tension between people and profit, navigating doubt, and continuing to move forward even when things feel shaky.
Episode 6|People AND profit - Resource Round Up
In this final People AND Profit resource round-up episode, April reflects on the messy firsts, the pride of finishing something new, and the powerful leadership patterns that emerged across the series. She distills the biggest themes from her conversations with incredible guests, shares her own hard-earned takeaways from building people-centric organizations, and offers tangible tools leaders can start using today.
Episode 7|scared and brave - caroline boudreaux
Sometimes courage doesn’t show up as a big, bold leap. Sometimes it looks like one small step forward…taken again and again. In this episode, April and Ivy sit down with Caroline to explore the moment that changed everything. A moment rooted in fear, heartbreak, and uncertainty with the simple promise that followed: to do one small thing each day.
That promise went on to spark extraordinary impact for thousands of children and families at The Miracle Foundation, proving that meaningful change doesn’t require having all the answers, just the willingness to move anyway.
Episode 8|scared and brave - Robin Lerner
April and Ivy sit down with Robin Lerner, someone who has spent her life stepping into some of the world’s hardest places, choosing presence, compassion, and responsibility even when fear is present. Together, they explore what it looks like to hold grief and hope, anger and love, the weight of reality and the possibility of change. This is a conversation about courage that isn’t loud, humanity that doesn’t look away, and the quiet power of choosing to move closer when things feel broken or unjust.